Curse

AdamKebhammer · Jul 27, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

I've been using this build alot lately in RA and TA. with the right team behind you glad points are easy to come by (but i guess that goes for any build)

A/Me
SA=12 (11+1)
CS=13 (10+2+1)
DM=12 (10+2)
rest in anything

equip
I suggest a zealous dagger of enchanting for obvious reasons
armor is up to you i go HP or MP up armor usually

Skills
GPS
Horns
FS
twisting
shadow refuge
arcane echo
shadowform
ressig

Usage
before engaging the opposing party use echo and form, run in first and listen to all the spells fail. You can usually get your first chain of attacks off before form runs out, becareful though because when it runs out so does your echo shadowform. make sure you cast your second form when the first one is flashing (running out). by the time your second shadow form starts to run out is when you should be casting shadow refuge and letting your monk (if you have one) know that you're going to lose a S***load of HP

Pros
-if you rush first everyone aims for you fails horribly
-monk has one less person to worry about for healing for the first half of the fight
-shadowform enchant cannot be drained/removed
-you still deal a great amount of damage
Con's
-touchers still can own you
-signet of disenchant
-AoE damage still hurts
-41 HP left after 2nd form ends

Alternate build with 2 identicle A/Me's

this is fun but i find on a 4v4 team its not very effective, its better for 8v8

same build but swap shadow refuge for arcane mimicry for 3 a total shadow forms, and get all sup runes except for deadly arts (who needs HP when you invincible for 75 secs) also make sure that shadow arts is maxed out this time

Commets, questions, and criticism all accepted....post away

lilnate22 · Jul 27, 2006, 02:53 PM // 14:53

due lmao u didnt come up with this build at all! man this is BS. this was 1st introdused by guildies of war machine in the regional playoffs

this build was later popularised by DArkness within alliance
im guessing you saw either WM or one of darkness allies run this build
w/e idc but just give credit whre its due

lilnate22 · Jul 27, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

due lmao u didnt come up with this build at all! man this is BS. this was 1st introdused by guildies of war machine in the regional playoffs

this build was later popularised by DArkness within alliance
im guessing you saw either WM or one of darkness allies run this build
w/e idc but just give credit whre its due

AdamKebhammer · Jul 27, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

oh....well i never knew about it, anyways no need to triple post on the thread, anyone know any mods that can be put into this build?

TheSonofDarwin · Jul 27, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilnate22

due lmao u didnt come up with this build at all! man this is BS. this was 1st introdused by guildies of war machine in the regional playoffs

this build was later popularised by DArkness within alliance
im guessing you saw either WM or one of darkness allies run this build
w/e idc but just give credit whre its due

You can come up with an idea on your own. Just because someone else thought of a build first doesn't mean you also can't come up with it on your own. My ele is a nuker - I never looked at any nuking builds while creating it. But surprise surprise they are almost identical!

Think. Type. Post. <- The order of events that should happen on a forum.

Nice build indeed. I'm not a big fan of shadowform though.

lilnate22 · Jul 27, 2006, 03:06 PM // 15:06

ya lag cosd that 3x post... but sure u never knew about that...

but w/e this build is pritty one time

accept ur missing one valuable skill...

recall ftw cast it and have monk stay wayy in the back

lilnate22 · Jul 27, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSonofDarwin

You can come up with an idea on your own. Just because someone else thought of a build first doesn't mean you also can't come up with it on your own. My ele is a nuker - I never looked at any nuking builds while creating it. But surprise surprise they are almost identical!

Think. Type. Post. <- The order of events that should happen on a forum.

Nice build indeed. I'm not a big fan of shadowform though.

lol theres no definite build for "nuking" nuking=term used for aoe.

and in life theres a term for taking other ppls ideas.... hmm wats that word im looking for... ah yes perjury!
im not saying he perjurised.. all im saying is give credit whre its due.. to war machine.

TheSonofDarwin · Jul 27, 2006, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilnate22

lol theres no definite build for "nuking" nuking=term used for aoe.

and in life theres a term for taking other ppls ideas.... hmm wats that word im looking for... ah yes perjury!
im not saying he perjurised.. all im saying is give credit whre its due.. to war machine.

You are STILL implying that he stole all of this and did not come up with it on his own. Sure, he very well could have copy and pasted the build. OR, he most likely came up with the build himself, without seeing it anywhere else, and thought he'd like to share with the community.

Ok, don't like my nuking reference. What about recall boon protector? What about OoB boon protector? Did I steal those ideas too just because I came up with them on my own?

You can make reference of someone else ALSO coming up with the idea on their own first, but do not wildly accuse people of stealing others ideas. GW has limited skills, it's not inconceivable that people will stick skills together in the same way on their own.

Edit: Why do you assume he KNEW War Machine used it? It's not his responsibility to search to see if some other guild is using a build. He never once said "Omgzors, I came up on this build the firstest and am the bestest and everyone who uses it is copyinz me, lolzors!"

Tensai · Jul 27, 2006, 09:08 PM // 21:08

lilnate...reading your posts i almost regurgitated my lunch...first off, clear up your grammar and spelling, i can barely follow...but more to the point, i agree w son of darwin that adam NEVER said this was HIS original build...he just said, hey, look here, an echoform build im sharing w ppl...he never claimed he was first to know it. but what REALLY made me post was your comment on PERJURISING...i hope you were joking...what adam did is not perjury...perjury is lying under oath while in the court of law while giving a testimony or the sort...wtf, how did he just commit perjury oh no wait, i got it..you meant plagiarize...seeing as how no ideas here were patented or copyrighted...its pretty much ok (though once again ill reaffirm adam never said this was his ORIGINAL idea)...

Think. Type. Post indeed...sadly for you lilnate, you fell short at step 1

Boozbaz · Jul 27, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17

This sounds like a really well thought out build. Would be much fun to be a "decoy". And with 2 sin's running around with the specialty, it could sum up to almost 50 seconds of shadowform. VERY nice! Well done my man, I'll have to try this out sometime.